Can you tell us a bit about yourself and where it all started?
I grew up in San Clemente, California, and skateboarding was a big part of my life from early on. It was more than just riding—it was how I got around, how I met people, and how I expressed myself. I spent a lot of time traveling around the West Coast looking for new spots, and through that I built a sense of community. Over time, that way of exploring started to change. Instead of searching for skate spots, I became more interested in maps, trails, and the landscapes beyond the city.
What did skateboarding give you that you still carry today?
Probably the way I see things. With skateboarding, you’re always looking for lines where there aren’t any. A curb, a corner, a random piece of the city—it all becomes something you can ride. So now, even on a bike, I still think like that. I don’t just follow the road. I look for different ways through it.
And how did gravel come into your life?
It wasn’t really a big decision. I didn’t stop skating and then start cycling. It just kind of grew from the same place. I wanted to go further. See more. Spend more time moving. Gravel gave me that space.
